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September 05, 2017, 11:50:37 PM
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Re: Is it time to sell the petrol or diesel car and go electric
« Reply #30 on: September 05, 2017, 11:50:37 PM »
The one upside is that such a move would destroy the current cartel oil producing countries, OPEC, Saudia, Venezuela, Russia, Iran, Nigeria, totally rotten and corrupt in every respect. Norway is probably the only honest player there.

Somebody once described oil as the Devil's S**t and they weren't wrong.
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November 24, 2017, 09:53:51 PM
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Re: Is it time to sell the petrol or diesel car and go electric
« Reply #31 on: November 24, 2017, 09:53:51 PM »
So we have had the latest budget.

In the interim period before any electric revolution...... If the government was serious about nitrogen levels then perhaps they should shave slapped 30p on a litre of diesel and reduced unleaded by the same amount. As the majority of members here run diesels I suspect the thought of this lacks some appeal.

For years ahead many will still be smoking around in older diesel or petrol vehicles unless outlawed,  A hybrid scrappage scheme will only apply for those prepared to get rid AND able to afford to change, ( many lack savings or are  unable to qualify for finance).

I fully accept that conventional power stations create carbon footprints as do manufacturing processes for electric &/or hybrid vehicles,  their components & maintenance upkeep. Carbon footprint reduction agendas arguably need to reach beyond the emissions of the produced vehicle
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November 25, 2017, 12:07:17 PM
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« Reply #32 on: November 25, 2017, 12:07:17 PM »
If changing vehicles probably wortg considering a petrol at the least?

My neighbour changed to a petrol to avoid regular charges when driving to london.

This has to have a cumulative effect on diesel car prices.


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November 25, 2017, 04:41:16 PM
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« Reply #33 on: November 25, 2017, 04:41:16 PM »
Regarding the cumulative effect on diesel prices. I know that GFV figures have been revised by at least one major car brand for diesel models
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December 04, 2017, 10:53:43 PM
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Re: Is it time to sell the petrol or diesel car and go electric
« Reply #34 on: December 04, 2017, 10:53:43 PM »
Price of oil is never going past $70 / barrel. Soon as it does the American Shale and Fracking boys will open some more wells. So fuel prices are stable but not the govements, bending over the kitchen table for the ignorant greens are not.. Check out how much greenhouse gas a cow or a volcano eruption gives off.
So diesels are being pushed off the road. inevitable. Asthma sufferers do have a point on old old diesels. Its just that all oil burners getting tarred with the same brush is very unfair.
Anyone thinking an electric car is green is just as green.
The emissions are only being moved to a central point.
The charging infrastructure is massive, check out the plugshare map.
I can travel Aberdeen to Newcastle with 20 rapid chargers in between. It will take 8.5 hours and 5 x 30 minute  charges and the battery does go hot. touching 9 on a 10 scale. Its very cheap motoring but not motoring as we know it.
You will arrive in Newcastle bored 54!tle55.
The X5 V8 does it in 5 hours none stop. Quieter, safer and a commanding view out the car. What a hoot to drive too. You will arrive with a smile.

The goverments are playing to the new kyoto agreements blindly encouraging Batterys which will become a monster mess to clean up. Hydrogen is 20 years away.

Its very sad, I am going to keep polluting with my V8 because I know one day I am going to be forced by taxation for my own good to hand it over and be responsible. How noble.
There is no Peter Pan scenario here as much as I want.
Autonomous driving, electric and hybrid is the future.
Poke it is my answer.
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December 06, 2017, 10:31:33 AM
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Re: Is it time to sell the petrol or diesel car and go electric
« Reply #35 on: December 06, 2017, 10:31:33 AM »
To be fair, the only reason you're comparing a Nissan Leaf to a V8 X5 is that you happen to own them both - I suspect if you did the same journey in a Tesla and a petrol Nissan Micra, you'd come to a different conclusion.

I love the idea of electric cars not because they're better for the environment and our health (although they are, and that's a good thing), but because they're the next step in the evolution of cars. I love cars and driving, but I'm not stuck in a time warp, kidding myself that the pinnacle of motoring just happens to be whatever I grew up with. I don't want to spend the rest of my life driving cars where the only technological advancements are in the entertainment systems and dash displays.

December 06, 2017, 10:58:55 AM
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« Reply #36 on: December 06, 2017, 10:58:55 AM »
I don't want to spend the rest of my life driving cars where the only technological advancements are in the entertainment systems and dash displays.

lol, good one there

u forgot the advancements being made with massaging seats  :))
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December 06, 2017, 05:54:29 PM
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Re: Is it time to sell the petrol or diesel car and go electric
« Reply #37 on: December 06, 2017, 05:54:29 PM »
u forgot the advancements being made with massaging seats.    😂😂 

Well your quite right Spandex on the comparison. I am loving the X5 high up driving position and its so quiet. Its my first one and I love the way it moves. I am currently having the suspension bushes done. Might even it stick it on LPG. The tesla does not have any appeal to me. Maybe the Jaguar I pace will. If its high enough. I am not sure about hybrids as they are all four cylinder with V8 glugging ability in the real world.
The leaf does have its good points to be fair.
No road tax, cheap fuel and quiet up to around 55mph.
No city penalties and yes the emissions have been moved to a power station / windmill / Hydro source. So cleaner in that respect.
Very easy to park in the middle of Amsterdam too.
My partner goes to ASDA for instance for a shop and charge.
The charging point is on its own so no trolley dings.
Brakes that last a long long time.
Cheap servicing.
An app that lets me pre heat the car / information etc.
They have worlwide / country and local competitions on the car to see who can drive the most economical.
As you drive you grow a digital tree on the digital dash.
How somebody got 200 miles on one charge is beyond me.
Autonomous driving is the next big brother thing. Can we call that advancement?

I just feel an ice engine has something electrical does not.
Just a personal view.
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December 07, 2017, 10:32:28 AM
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Re: Is it time to sell the petrol or diesel car and go electric
« Reply #38 on: December 07, 2017, 10:32:28 AM »
I just feel an ice engine has something electrical does not.
Just a personal view.
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Sure, I get that completely. I have a 4.8l E70 and that's the 4th BMW V8 I've owned. I know I prefer the noise of a big V8 to the whine of an electric motor, but that doesn't mean the V8 sound is 'better' - It just means I happen to have grown up associating burbly exhausts with speed and power.

Just like there are still grown men who get excited by a steam train, I'm sure I will carry on loving the noise and smell of a big V8 long after electric becomes the most popular power source. Nothing wrong with nostalgia, as long as it doesn't trick you into thinking that things were genuinely better back then.

That kind of nostalgia has already got this country into enough trouble, but I'm buggered if I'm going to let it stop me enjoying the next generation of cars.