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August 04, 2014, 06:03:30 PM
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Re: MODS PLEASE STICKY : WARNING - BMW THEFTS - WITH FOB KEYS
« Reply #45 on: August 04, 2014, 06:03:30 PM »
I have no idea how I missed this thread even when I searched, I must automatically ignore the sticky topics at the top  :-[

I started a thread the other day asking about the Viper system, I'm thinking of getting one and wondered what extras anybody may have fitted etc.
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September 18, 2014, 09:31:32 PM
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Re: MODS PLEASE STICKY : WARNING - BMW THEFTS - WITH FOB KEYS
« Reply #46 on: September 18, 2014, 09:31:32 PM »
I just had the Viper kit fitted to my xDrive 35d, fitted by Secure My Car.
OBD is isolated and keys can't be cloned now without the original one being there.
It also sounds a warning if anybody stands next to the front windows.
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October 22, 2014, 03:52:34 PM
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Re: MODS PLEASE STICKY : WARNING - BMW THEFTS - WITH FOB KEYS
« Reply #47 on: October 22, 2014, 03:52:34 PM »
Hi,
Would you be prepared to reveal the installation cost? PM if you want to.

October 22, 2014, 10:14:00 PM
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« Reply #48 on: October 22, 2014, 10:14:00 PM »


Secure My Car BMW Viper Upgrade Package. Whats Includes:

Includes One 2 way Responder LED Ghost light up to 2000 foot range remote
Revenger® 6 Tone Siren 120db siren
Extra 2 sensors -
Dual Proximity sensor with warn away
Dual impact sesnor with warn away
BMW specially designed OBD port immobilisation (designed by us)
2nd Engine immobiliser
Specialist canbus module with latest BMW firmware installed for full digital control of your car
Trunk pop from viper remote
Total closure when arming the alarm
fully fitted by our BMW specialist installer
Option to upgrade to remote engine start.(not included in this package) *
SmartStart™ Compatible
The package fully fitted to any BMW is £550
* Spare key is needed if remote start is added. Automatic transmission vehicles only. Remote start is not included in this package but can be added for £150.

Viper bmw package fitted is £550
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October 23, 2014, 08:48:01 PM
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« Reply #49 on: October 23, 2014, 08:48:01 PM »
Thanks for that BullyB.
How are you getting on with the system?
We live in the country in Lincolnshire but do visit our daughter in South London every 2/3 months or so.
Am taking delivery of a 2011 X5 4.0D Sport next week so that is why I am interested.

October 24, 2014, 07:40:57 AM
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Re: MODS PLEASE STICKY : WARNING - BMW THEFTS - WITH FOB KEYS
« Reply #50 on: October 24, 2014, 07:40:57 AM »
I think it is great. The warning sounds if anybody stands too close to the front windows.
The blue LED lights the inside at night as a deterant.
Not been nicked yet...
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October 25, 2014, 01:54:16 PM
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« Reply #51 on: October 25, 2014, 01:54:16 PM »
Just a thought on this security issue  ;).
While I am now retired I was a fully trained auto electrician many moons ago and the following thought has occurred to me.
To prevent vehicle thefts on vehicles with electric fuel pumps we used to fit a switch (either a simple flick one or a key operated one) in the power supply cable, after the fuse, to the pump. This switch would be placed in a discreet position in the front of the car but somewhere where it could be reached by the driver. Normally it would be always left switched on, but if the car was left somewhere suspect or long term in a car park then you would switch it off, obviously meaning that the vehicle could not be driven off.
With modern CANBUS systems is there any reason why this same method would not work? Would it throw up an error that could only be cancelled by a visit to a stealership?
Does anyone with the knowledge of modern vehicle electrical systems have any comments on this?

October 25, 2014, 02:38:08 PM
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Re: MODS PLEASE STICKY : WARNING - BMW THEFTS - WITH FOB KEYS
« Reply #52 on: October 25, 2014, 02:38:08 PM »
I would not expect the pump itself to throw an error if switched off, but the low fuel pressure would if you forgot to turn it on again.  I might be wrong though.

When the fuel pump relay failed on my E53 there were no errors logged which is why it took them nearly a day to find the fault, and ten minutes to fix it!

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October 25, 2014, 06:47:08 PM
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Re: MODS PLEASE STICKY : WARNING - BMW THEFTS - WITH FOB KEYS
« Reply #53 on: October 25, 2014, 06:47:08 PM »
Thanks for that BullyB.
How are you getting on with the system?
We live in the country in Lincolnshire but do visit our daughter in South London every 2/3 months or so.
Am taking delivery of a 2011 X5 4.0D Sport next week so that is why I am interested.

Youll be fine in south london,  had 2 x5's in 6 years and neither have been touched.......too much chance of it being a yardies car  ;)  lol

October 27, 2014, 03:10:10 PM
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Re: MODS PLEASE STICKY : WARNING - BMW THEFTS - WITH FOB KEYS
« Reply #54 on: October 27, 2014, 03:10:10 PM »
For those with keyless entry systems, this WILL be of interest.

The BBC are running a story on Watchdog and there is this article on the BBC news website regarding cars with keyless entry systems.  This goes wider than just BMW/Audi and includes Landrover and others.....even Ford and 'White Van Man' are now a target!

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October 27, 2014, 04:59:07 PM
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« Reply #55 on: October 27, 2014, 04:59:07 PM »
Some insurers are not even covering Range Rovers in London now according to the press today
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October 27, 2014, 05:29:07 PM
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« Reply #56 on: October 27, 2014, 05:29:07 PM »
Someone in my street had their E70 stolen this way a while back - i know because they saw my car  (also E70) and stopped by to warn me.
Shortly after I got the "security upgrade" done by the local dealer although it seems there's still a problem.

I've got an F15 now (nealry a year in), and my existing insurer happily changed over the vehicle at the time but pulled out of the market when my renewal date came round. I should add, no claims, full bonus aged late 40s... but parked on the street in S London.

I don't blame the insurers, I blame the theiving gits that nick the cars. At least there's an upside to the F15 being so fugly though.... it seems the RRS desirability extends to the tea leafs as well.
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October 27, 2014, 06:03:07 PM
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« Reply #57 on: October 27, 2014, 06:03:07 PM »

....but pulled out of the market when my renewal date came round.....aged late 40s


I can see this being an issue !


At least there's an upside to the F15 being so fugly though

There had to be one good reason somewhere to have one

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October 27, 2014, 08:36:02 PM
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Re: MODS PLEASE STICKY : WARNING - BMW THEFTS - WITH FOB KEYS
« Reply #58 on: October 27, 2014, 08:36:02 PM »
The reason on why I did not take that on any of my recent new cars. Even I would be able to intercept the code from the key. I don't really think it is that great an option, especially if you read that if you wash the car that the boot keeps opening as it thinks you want to open it by proximity (Porsche at least).
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November 10, 2014, 12:54:25 PM
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« Reply #59 on: November 10, 2014, 12:54:25 PM »
I gave BMW a ring on the number given on Watchdog to check my cars status. Turns out it is affected (not surprising, given it's a Feb 2010 build) and hasn't been updated. They promised to get back to me with arrangements within 5 working days. Surprise, surprise, nothing yet  >:(. Might just bypass them and get on to the selling dealer (Rybrooks in Shrewsbury).