Not joined yet? Register for free and enjoy features such as alerts, private messaging and viewing latest posts and topics.

Dipstick or I drive

Discuss your latest mods or ideas, and anything to do with the BMW X5 (E70).
User avatar
X5Sport
Global Moderator
Global Moderator
Posts: 18571
Joined: Fri Sep 03, 2010 4:09 pm
Location: Planet X6......

Re: Dipstick or I drive

Post by X5Sport » Sun Mar 19, 2017 8:22 pm

I always check mine with the engine warmed up having been told by the mechanics who trained me that was 'the way to do it'.
:ant: Never anthropomorphise computers. They hate that.

User avatar
kgeddes
Member
Member
Posts: 51
Joined: Tue Oct 04, 2016 10:06 am

Re: Dipstick or I drive

Post by kgeddes » Mon Mar 20, 2017 11:03 am

Thanks X5Sport, appreciate your reply.
2017..2012 X5 MSport 3.0D black
2016..2012 X5 MSport 3.0D black
2015..2009 Mitsubishi Shogun silver
2014..Range Rover Vogue L322 V8 blue
2013..Range Rover Overfinch 4.6 V8 green

User avatar
Wipeout
Newbie
Newbie
Posts: 40
Joined: Mon Jun 16, 2014 9:44 pm

Re: Dipstick or I drive

Post by Wipeout » Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:17 pm

I did an oil change on the weekend, put in 7.6L which was max on the dipstick but showed overfilled in the i drive menu, sucked out 350ml via the dipstick tube and it now shows max & ok in the I drive menu and mid way on the dipstick.
A few reports online detail that mid way on the dipstick is correct so I'm happy that the sensor reports correctly. From what I see, the difference between max and min (I drive & dipstick) is 1L.
I checked using the Carly app and when the I drive was reporting over filled and the dipstick at max (7.6L), Carly showed 95% full, with 350ml removed Carly now reports 85% and I drive shows ok.
The I drive icon when showing overfilled fills in the top segment (and went amber) so 95% full seems fairly accurate, at 85% the last segment isn't showing and it reads ok with green segments.
All levels taken with the engine warm but stopped for 5 mins.
Last edited by Wipeout on Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:21 pm, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
kgeddes
Member
Member
Posts: 51
Joined: Tue Oct 04, 2016 10:06 am

Re: Dipstick or I drive

Post by kgeddes » Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:18 pm

When I collected my X5 today (with newly fitted driver seat base cover and foam :)  ) I spoke with the Head Technician re. the iDrive telling me the engine oil is at maximum but the dipstick showing less that half way between MIN and MAX.....his response was ALWAYS go by what the iDrive tells you.....If you fill the engine to MAX on the dipstick you will cause all types of problems!

Crazy!

I'll stick to where it is now.....near half way on the dipstick.
Last edited by kgeddes on Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:42 pm, edited 1 time in total.
2017..2012 X5 MSport 3.0D black
2016..2012 X5 MSport 3.0D black
2015..2009 Mitsubishi Shogun silver
2014..Range Rover Vogue L322 V8 blue
2013..Range Rover Overfinch 4.6 V8 green

User avatar
PokenH00D
Member
Member
Posts: 127
Joined: Wed Mar 08, 2017 9:18 pm
Location: Nottinghamshire

Re: Dipstick or I drive

Post by PokenH00D » Fri Mar 31, 2017 9:26 am

I watched a very good friend of mine change the oil on my E61 at the dealer he works at.
He just put an overhead pipe in the oil filler and pulled the trigger.
When I asked him how he knew how much to put in, he said that the service bay knows which car is in and the oil is metered out by the computer.
Followed with, and I quote "it prevents the yoghurts they employ here overfilling customers cars, causing problems I then have to fix"
2010 E71 X6 40d. Pearl Silver Metallic.
Carly Pro

Image

Glen
Member
Member
Posts: 213
Joined: Tue Mar 07, 2017 6:25 pm

Re: Dipstick or I drive

Post by Glen » Fri Mar 31, 2017 3:04 pm

I've just ordered a oil extractor £16
The dipstick says max idrive says over full
2012 X5 40d msport Mine now gone :(
2010 320d convertible WIFE'S
2006 Mini cooper convertible WIFE'S gone
2017 X5 m50d m performance pack

User avatar
X5Sport
Global Moderator
Global Moderator
Posts: 18571
Joined: Fri Sep 03, 2010 4:09 pm
Location: Planet X6......

Re: Dipstick or I drive

Post by X5Sport » Fri Mar 31, 2017 6:00 pm

That's not very clever of them then is it!
:ant: Never anthropomorphise computers. They hate that.

Glen
Member
Member
Posts: 213
Joined: Tue Mar 07, 2017 6:25 pm

Re: Dipstick or I drive

Post by Glen » Fri Mar 31, 2017 7:31 pm

X5sport your totally right what is going on with these services.
We all pay a small fortune to these garages and they don't seem to give a monkey's.
Probably putting the measured amount of oil in but not changing the filter ie overfill im not saying it happens all the time but I think it could happen occasionally.
Last edited by Glen on Fri Mar 31, 2017 9:13 pm, edited 1 time in total.
2012 X5 40d msport Mine now gone :(
2010 320d convertible WIFE'S
2006 Mini cooper convertible WIFE'S gone
2017 X5 m50d m performance pack

martin33100
Member
Member
Posts: 379
Joined: Sun Oct 27, 2013 11:00 pm

Re: Dipstick or I drive

Post by martin33100 » Fri Mar 31, 2017 9:03 pm

Does I drive on a 57 plate pre LCI show the oil level? as I haven't found it yet.

Horizon
Snr Member
Snr Member
Posts: 2599
Joined: Sun Jun 10, 2012 7:34 pm
Location: Bury Lancashire

Re: Dipstick or I drive

Post by Horizon » Sat Apr 01, 2017 7:29 am

[quote="martin33100"]
Does I drive on a 57 plate pre LCI show the oil level? as I haven't found it yet.
[/quote]
He says CIC in the video buts its CCC
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&sourc ... tyQMtLysWA
2011 Kia Sorento KX3  2.2D 60 Plate Auto in black ( mine )
BMW E83 X3.  3.0d M Sport, 2008 in black ( now gone )
BMW E93 330i Convertible  Msport  2007.  ( Now sold )
VW Golf 2.0 TDI 140 GT 2010 ( now sold )
Now Sold 55 plate, X5, 3.0 D Sport. Silv

Chrispy
Member
Member
Posts: 159
Joined: Mon Oct 23, 2017 12:16 pm

Re: Dipstick or I drive

Post by Chrispy » Sat Oct 05, 2019 1:31 pm

Hi guys. Sorry to resurrect this "old" thread but I have the issue of iDrive saying too much oil. Checked the dipstick when engine cold and had been stood etc and it was bang on the max line - so I'm assuming I need to extract a bit?

Re tooling, can anyone suggest an appropriate syringe & pipe combo to reach down the dipstick pipe to pull some out?

Online
Leslie
Snr Member
Snr Member
Posts: 1293
Joined: Sat Sep 29, 2018 10:58 am

Re: Dipstick or I drive

Post by Leslie » Sat Oct 05, 2019 3:33 pm

Chrispy wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2019 1:31 pm Hi guys. Sorry to resurrect this "old" thread but I have the issue of iDrive saying too much oil. Checked the dipstick when engine cold and had been stood etc and it was bang on the max line - so I'm assuming I need to extract a bit?

Re tooling, can anyone suggest an appropriate syringe & pipe combo to reach down the dipstick pipe to pull some out?
If the dipstick says its ok id leave it alone if it was me as 1/4 litre here or there will make no difference at all given how big the sump is but if you want an extractor you could do worse than a pela 6000 which are about 50 quid on ebay and hold 6 litres and is what I use for oil changes although I find it or at least mine is quite slow :D

User avatar
X5Sport
Global Moderator
Global Moderator
Posts: 18571
Joined: Fri Sep 03, 2010 4:09 pm
Location: Planet X6......

Re: Dipstick or I drive

Post by X5Sport » Sat Oct 05, 2019 6:12 pm

Mine nagged after service even though the dipstick showed it as fine.

I use a Mityvac 7201 to change the oil in ours.

If you are ‘vacuuming’ the oil it’s best to warm the engine first. Synthetic oils seem to be harder to extract easily when cold.
:ant: Never anthropomorphise computers. They hate that.

Chrispy
Member
Member
Posts: 159
Joined: Mon Oct 23, 2017 12:16 pm

Re: Dipstick or I drive

Post by Chrispy » Sun Oct 06, 2019 4:25 pm

Hmm - so the question is, at bang on max when cold / the car has been stood for a while, is that an issue? Based on earlier replies to this thread, in order to make iDrive happy a smidgen of oil needs to come out?

I'm no longer the sort to change my own oil (last cars I did that on were my E36's) as I quote honestly don't fancy 2x axle stands on a 2.5 tonne vehicle and doing it all on my back, so I don't want to invest in anything fancy to suck out some oil. So if I do have to pull a tiny bit out then something cheap and cheerful might do the job?

User avatar
X5Sport
Global Moderator
Global Moderator
Posts: 18571
Joined: Fri Sep 03, 2010 4:09 pm
Location: Planet X6......

Re: Dipstick or I drive

Post by X5Sport » Sun Oct 06, 2019 6:07 pm

Amazon do sell some 500ml vehicle oil syringes though you’ll need a bit more hose in order to get to the bottom of the dipstick. They’re under £10.

I know what you mean about rolling about under cars, it’s why I bought the Mityvac this year.

You could get whoever did the oil change to take some out as they overfilled it (according to Nagging Nora in the iDrive. :)
:ant: Never anthropomorphise computers. They hate that.

Post Reply