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Re: Adaptive cruise

Post by kenniff » Wed Mar 21, 2018 12:49 pm

[quote="poolie"]
I have this on my new X5 picking up this week. when I test drove the new e class their was a function on there that the car drove itself aslong as you kept your hands next to steering wheel is this the same option?
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When I bought (nearly a year ago) if you specified "Driving Assistant Plus" you got the "active cruise control" and  "traffic jam assist". The latter works only on motorways and only up to 35 mph and it will indeed steer the car for you as well as stopping you from running into the car in front. The drawback is that you do have to have at least 1 hand on the wheel - if you don't it tells you and makes noises. Frankly if I have a hand on the wheel I find i automatically steer the car anyway.

Also, one other issue with TJA is that (as with active cruise control) is that it leaves a big enough gap to the next car that everyone and his brother will cut in in front of you when they decide they need to be in that lane. Even with the distance from next car setting at its shortest, people will always see a gap that they think  means you've invited them in. I'm all for maintaining a safe distance when driving on a motorway, but when in a slow moving traffic jam on a motorway I find the distance it leaves to be too far. Ultimately, if you don't want people constantly cutting in you have to turn it off.

"Lane Departure Warning" is on all new X5s (part of the Driving Assistant" package - and it just tells you (via steering wheel feedback) when you leave a lane.
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Re: Adaptive cruise

Post by Rassi » Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:44 pm

I am until now also less than enthused about the ACC - it leaves a too big gap before slowing down, and I find that it is too abrupt in scrubbing off speed/braking - maybe it is the speed differential that is too big, as I do tend to make progress, and I would rather coast up to the car in front, leaving a safe gap, rather than keeping a 2 second distance, but maybe it is just me being too aggressive. Would have preferred to be able to choose between ACC and normal CC.
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Re: Adaptive cruise

Post by kenniff » Wed Mar 21, 2018 5:08 pm

[quote="Rassi"]
I am until now also less than enthused about the ACC - it leaves a too big gap before slowing down, and I find that it is too abrupt in scrubbing off speed/braking - maybe it is the speed differential that is too big, as I do tend to make progress, and I would rather coast up to the car in front, leaving a safe gap, rather than keeping a 2 second distance, but maybe it is just me being too aggressive. Would have preferred to be able to choose between ACC and normal CC.
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I actually like the ACC - its just the TJA that causes me issues. Its true that ACC does mean that people don't move out the way as you approach them - because it stops you before they've got the hint and they think you are perfectly happy to just follow them. However, if I am in a hurry I just "manually" speed up a bit to see if they get the idea. :)
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Re: Adaptive cruise

Post by RichM50d » Wed Mar 21, 2018 9:34 pm

[quote="kenniff"]
[quote="poolie"]
I have this on my new X5 picking up this week. when I test drove the new e class their was a function on there that the car drove itself aslong as you kept your hands next to steering wheel is this the same option?
[/quote]

When I bought (nearly a year ago) if you specified "Driving Assistant Plus" you got the "active cruise control" and  "traffic jam assist". The latter works only on motorways and only up to 35 mph and it will indeed steer the car for you as well as stopping you from running into the car in front. The drawback is that you do have to have at least 1 hand on the wheel - if you don't it tells you and makes noises. Frankly if I have a hand on the wheel I find i automatically steer the car anyway.

Also, one other issue with TJA is that (as with active cruise control) is that it leaves a big enough gap to the next car that everyone and his brother will cut in in front of you when they decide they need to be in that lane. Even with the distance from next car setting at its shortest, people will always see a gap that they think  means you've invited them in. I'm all for maintaining a safe distance when driving on a motorway, but when in a slow moving traffic jam on a motorway I find the distance it leaves to be too far. Ultimately, if you don't want people constantly cutting in you have to turn it off.

"Lane Departure Warning" is on all new X5s (part of the Driving Assistant" package - and it just tells you (via steering wheel feedback) when you leave a lane.
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I’ve switched the Lane Departure Warning off on my car, as I got fed up with the steering wheel vibrating the whole time!

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Re: Adaptive cruise

Post by Gilly1964 » Wed Mar 21, 2018 10:51 pm

[quote="RichM50d"]
I’ve switched the Lane Departure Warning off on my car, as I got fed up with the steering wheel vibrating the whole time!
[/quote]Not wishing to appear facetious but why not drive ‘properly’ and use the indicators for that ‘one’ time it saves your blushes?

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Re: Adaptive cruise

Post by Rassi » Thu Mar 22, 2018 7:26 am

[quote="Gilly1964"]
[quote="RichM50d"]
I’ve switched the Lane Departure Warning off on my car, as I got fed up with the steering wheel vibrating the whole time!
[/quote]Not wishing to appear facetious but why not drive ‘properly’ and use the indicators for that ‘one’ time it saves your blushes?
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I turned off Lane Departure Warning too, even using the indicators (like all BMW drivers are known to do...) I found it very sensitive and the vibrations were annoying me.
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Re: Adaptive cruise

Post by RichM50d » Thu Mar 22, 2018 7:49 am

[quote="Gilly1964"]
[quote="RichM50d"]
I’ve switched the Lane Departure Warning off on my car, as I got fed up with the steering wheel vibrating the whole time!
[/quote]Not wishing to appear facetious but why not drive ‘properly’ and use the indicators for that ‘one’ time it saves your blushes?
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Drive properly? What a stupid comment.

Have you used LDW? It vibrates EVERY time you get near the white lines.

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Re: Adaptive cruise

Post by Gilly1964 » Thu Mar 22, 2018 10:21 am

[quote="RichM50d"]
Drive properly? What a stupid comment.

Have you used LDW? It vibrates EVERY time you get near the white lines.
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No it doesn’t!

If you use your indicators to change lane, as you are required to do by the Highway Code (hence driving ‘properly), then LDW does not react.

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Re: Adaptive cruise

Post by RichM50d » Thu Mar 22, 2018 2:52 pm

[quote="Gilly1964"]
[quote="RichM50d"]
Drive properly? What a stupid comment.

Have you used LDW? It vibrates EVERY time you get near the white lines.
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No it doesn’t!

If you use your indicators to change lane, as you are required to do by the Highway Code (hence driving ‘properly), then LDW does not react.
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Who said anything about changing lane?

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Re: Adaptive cruise

Post by Gilly1964 » Thu Mar 22, 2018 4:51 pm

[quote="RichM50d"]
Who said anything about changing lane?
[/quote]What other white lines are you driving over then?

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Re: Adaptive cruise UPDATE ....

Post by BKRM50D » Wed May 09, 2018 1:39 pm

After starting this thread in February ,it’s taken till now  to find the right car and hoping to collect on Friday . As follows ; M50D dec 2017, ruby black , 21” wheels , ivory white Nappa leather, comfort seats, DRIVER ASSIST PLUS, surround cameras , etc . Pics to follow  :camera:

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Re: Adaptive cruise UPDATE ....

Post by Dogzyboy » Wed May 09, 2018 9:16 pm

[quote="bkr50d"]
After starting this thread in February ,it’s taken till now  to find the right car and hoping to collect on Friday . As follows ; M50D dec 2017, ruby black , 21” wheels , ivory white Nappa leather, comfort seats, DRIVER ASSIST PLUS, surround cameras , etc . Pics to follow  :camera:
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Re: Adaptive cruise

Post by TheHerd » Thu May 10, 2018 7:48 pm

Anyone know if it's possible to retrofit ACC and Surround View?
both seem like a lot of hardware with Radar Detectors and a number of cameras but would be great if it's possible.
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Re: Adaptive cruise

Post by X5Sport » Thu May 10, 2018 8:29 pm

See if there is an official kit from BMW.  Realoem has the full list.  If there isn’t then you’ll need to identify the relevant hardware by going through the electronics pages.
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Re: Adaptive cruise

Post by bimjim » Fri May 11, 2018 11:34 am

[quote="TheHerd"]
Anyone know if it's possible to retrofit ACC and Surround View?
both seem like a lot of hardware with Radar Detectors and a number of cameras but would be great if it's possible.
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Technically probably possible, but it wouldn't be cheap or easy I don't think.
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