Not joined yet? Register for free and enjoy features such as alerts, private messaging and viewing latest posts and topics.

Autocar road test

User avatar
535dboy
Lifer
Lifer
Posts: 5491
Joined: Sat Jul 31, 2010 11:38 am
Location: East Sussex

Autocar road test

Post by 535dboy » Wed Nov 13, 2013 1:06 pm

50d road tested in autocar this week

Haven't read it full yet but in summary it only got 3.5 stars and placed in 3rd place

Beaten (I'm not surprised) by the cayenne s diesel (v8) with 4 stars and the RRS V8 diesel (the only engine to buy if you must go to the dirty pumps) with 4.5 stars.

Confirms my thoughts that BMW are loosing their way.
Currently :
2012 Audi RS4 (B8)
2012 Porsche Boxster S (981)
2008 Lotus Exige S (a bit modified!)
2015 Nissan Leaf twin turbo with Nitros

Previously :
2008 BMW X5 3.0sd MSport
2005 BMW 535d MSport

Nat
Member
Member
Posts: 396
Joined: Tue Aug 17, 2010 9:58 pm

Re: Autocar road test

Post by Nat » Wed Nov 13, 2013 3:30 pm

Hi,

I've not read it, but have been in a 50d. It really is very good, but comes with a hefty price tag . Can't comment on the cayenne, not been in one and not sure on the price comparison , but one thing I do know is I'd rather drive my daughters ford Ka than a range rover. Its the same old argument, irrespective of all the hype ( or spin ) there is a reason why they never use anything Land Rover where it matters..........in those places they use land Cruisers and Nissans.
There is also a very good  reason anything Land Rover is at the bottom of the JD power survey........

Having a good engine does not make a good car. Take cadillac sts...........monster north star V8 that only need a service every 100,000 miles.........unfortunately in  a very average car. Also E46 M3......numerous comparisons with all sorts of stuff and was generaly behind on the power stakes, yet trounced everything in its path as a car.

Autocar or any other article is just an opinion................and its not the same as mine.

Online
User avatar
X5Sport
Global Moderator
Global Moderator
Posts: 18520
Joined: Fri Sep 03, 2010 4:09 pm
Location: Planet X6......

Re: Autocar road test

Post by X5Sport » Wed Nov 13, 2013 3:36 pm

He only reads things that agree with his own opinion......and the word is losing, not loosing...  ::)

I wasn't impressed with the 50d except it was very rapid, but having run a fleet of Landrovers there is no way I would run one or buy it with my own money.  And the Porker is just plain ugly.

All IMHO of course......

R
:ant: Never anthropomorphise computers. They hate that.

User avatar
535dboy
Lifer
Lifer
Posts: 5491
Joined: Sat Jul 31, 2010 11:38 am
Location: East Sussex

Re: Autocar road test

Post by 535dboy » Wed Nov 13, 2013 7:09 pm

[quote="X5Sport"]
He only reads things that agree with his own opinion......and the word is losing, not loosing...  ::)

I wasn't impressed with the 50d except it was very rapid, but having run a fleet of Landrovers there is no way I would run one or buy it with my own money.  And the Porker is just plain ugly.

All IMHO of course......

R
[/quote]

Me and the other press of course!
Currently :
2012 Audi RS4 (B8)
2012 Porsche Boxster S (981)
2008 Lotus Exige S (a bit modified!)
2015 Nissan Leaf twin turbo with Nitros

Previously :
2008 BMW X5 3.0sd MSport
2005 BMW 535d MSport

User avatar
shadrack
Snr Member
Snr Member
Posts: 2631
Joined: Wed Aug 24, 2011 9:19 pm
Location: north yorkshire

Re: Autocar road test

Post by shadrack » Wed Nov 13, 2013 8:10 pm

[quote="Nat"]
Hi,

I've not read it, but have been in a 50d. It really is very good, but comes with a hefty price tag . Can't comment on the cayenne, not been in one and not sure on the price comparison , but one thing I do know is I'd rather drive my daughters ford Ka than a range rover. Its the same old argument, irrespective of all the hype ( or spin ) there is a reason why they never use anything Land Rover where it matters..........in those places they use land Cruisers and Nissans.
There is also a very good  reason anything Land Rover is at the bottom of the JD power survey........

Having a good engine does not make a good car. Take cadillac sts...........monster north star V8 that only need a service every 100,000 miles.........unfortunately in  a very average car. Also E46 M3......numerous comparisons with all sorts of stuff and was generaly behind on the power stakes, yet trounced everything in its path as a car.

Autocar or any other article is just an opinion................and its not the same as mine.
[/quote]

in fairness that argument cant be used as how many x5s and cayennes do you see where it matters...none all these cars ffrr, rrs, x5, x6(for gay potential x5 drivers mainly found in pink), cayenne etc are built for urban use and to mount curbs outside of schools, defenders on the other hand are used in remote places, maybe not as common as landcruiser and nissans but are used, also have you driven a land cruiser and seen the price of them, there awful stone age barges with a thirst for fuel, just my opinion
current: 2016 Vw Crafter
              2007 318d touring
              2008 Transit sport van            
              1964 vw beach buggy
              1988 e30 325i convertible

snipez999
Snr Member
Snr Member
Posts: 1354
Joined: Sat Feb 05, 2011 12:55 pm
Location: Manchestershire[ish]

Re: Autocar road test

Post by snipez999 » Wed Nov 13, 2013 8:33 pm

Horses for courses.  The RRS in V6 was a very nice ride, IMO better than in the X5.  And, with a 3 year service warranty thrown in on a car we will trade up in 2 years anyway, represented a good deal.  The new model really is very different from the outgoing one.  My choice would still be the S/C RR as the V8 drove big and not very keenly.  Anyway, 535d boy has lost all the sensation in his backside from years driving Lotii so he's no help.
Sometimes you meet people who have had 'Car X' for years and years and never had an issue; others have same model and nothing but issues - go figure.  Anyway my neighbour has a Cayenne so they are gay, full stop.
Image

Current: Bentley Continental GTC V8S
Previous: Aston Martin DB9; X6 M50d; X6 40d; 535d M Sport; 330d M Sport

User avatar
535dboy
Lifer
Lifer
Posts: 5491
Joined: Sat Jul 31, 2010 11:38 am
Location: East Sussex

Re: Autocar road test

Post by 535dboy » Wed Nov 13, 2013 8:35 pm

Only 3 Years service pack

We got 5
Currently :
2012 Audi RS4 (B8)
2012 Porsche Boxster S (981)
2008 Lotus Exige S (a bit modified!)
2015 Nissan Leaf twin turbo with Nitros

Previously :
2008 BMW X5 3.0sd MSport
2005 BMW 535d MSport

snipez999
Snr Member
Snr Member
Posts: 1354
Joined: Sat Feb 05, 2011 12:55 pm
Location: Manchestershire[ish]

Re: Autocar road test

Post by snipez999 » Thu Nov 14, 2013 11:33 am

You'll need it I won't :-p
Image

Current: Bentley Continental GTC V8S
Previous: Aston Martin DB9; X6 M50d; X6 40d; 535d M Sport; 330d M Sport

User avatar
535dboy
Lifer
Lifer
Posts: 5491
Joined: Sat Jul 31, 2010 11:38 am
Location: East Sussex

Re: Autocar road test

Post by 535dboy » Thu Nov 14, 2013 11:35 am

[quote="snipez999"]
You'll need it I won't :-p
[/quote]

It's not for me!
Currently :
2012 Audi RS4 (B8)
2012 Porsche Boxster S (981)
2008 Lotus Exige S (a bit modified!)
2015 Nissan Leaf twin turbo with Nitros

Previously :
2008 BMW X5 3.0sd MSport
2005 BMW 535d MSport

Woofer
Member
Member
Posts: 115
Joined: Mon Mar 19, 2012 5:22 pm

Re: Autocar road test

Post by Woofer » Fri Nov 15, 2013 4:25 pm

I read the report and could see why they came to that conclusion , in fairness they did say they looked forward to testing less overpriced derivatives and suspected they might be the sweet spot of the range. I've ordered a 4.0d Msport with a few toys and recon for the price it is a great option.

I'm concerned that as I don't read or feature in Hello or OK I'm not in the RRS demographic  ::)
F15 5.0msport

User avatar
shadrack
Snr Member
Snr Member
Posts: 2631
Joined: Wed Aug 24, 2011 9:19 pm
Location: north yorkshire

Re: Autocar road test

Post by shadrack » Fri Nov 15, 2013 7:21 pm

[quote="Woofer"]
I read the report and could see why they came to that conclusion , in fairness they did say they looked forward to testing less overpriced derivatives and suspected they might be the sweet spot of the range. I've ordered a 4.0d Msport with a few toys and recon for the price it is a great option.

I'm concerned that as I don't read or feature in Hello or OK I'm not in the RRS demographic  ::)
[/quote]

if you read them your in the x6 in man pink demographic
current: 2016 Vw Crafter
              2007 318d touring
              2008 Transit sport van            
              1964 vw beach buggy
              1988 e30 325i convertible

davyk31
Member
Member
Posts: 233
Joined: Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:38 am

Re: Autocar road test

Post by davyk31 » Fri Nov 15, 2013 8:11 pm

What Car did a test last month, X5 30d came a very close second to the RRS, marked down a little on the ride quality compared to the ultra smooth RRS. Much better economy, CO2 and buying price were pluses for the X5.

Likewise Autoexpress, another close run thing.

Not sure 535d boy is being completely representative.

User avatar
535dboy
Lifer
Lifer
Posts: 5491
Joined: Sat Jul 31, 2010 11:38 am
Location: East Sussex

Re: Autocar road test

Post by 535dboy » Fri Nov 15, 2013 8:19 pm

[quote="davyk31"]

Not sure 535d boy is being completely representative.
[/quote]

No, really !?!?

Everybody wants different things out of their cars.

Before I bought the X5 I tried the V8 diesel RRS which had just been launched.

As a driver I much preferred the x5 to the RRS. The RRS was a nice place to be if to do big miles on motorways but I don't hence I bought the X5

Now having driven both the roles have reversed and the RRS feels more sporty than the X5 and it is a nicer place to sit in. It is of course a fair bit more expensive  of course.
Currently :
2012 Audi RS4 (B8)
2012 Porsche Boxster S (981)
2008 Lotus Exige S (a bit modified!)
2015 Nissan Leaf twin turbo with Nitros

Previously :
2008 BMW X5 3.0sd MSport
2005 BMW 535d MSport

snipez999
Snr Member
Snr Member
Posts: 1354
Joined: Sat Feb 05, 2011 12:55 pm
Location: Manchestershire[ish]

Re: Autocar road test

Post by snipez999 » Fri Nov 15, 2013 9:33 pm

Then again BMWs are hardly budget places to sit......
Image

Current: Bentley Continental GTC V8S
Previous: Aston Martin DB9; X6 M50d; X6 40d; 535d M Sport; 330d M Sport

User avatar
535dboy
Lifer
Lifer
Posts: 5491
Joined: Sat Jul 31, 2010 11:38 am
Location: East Sussex

Re: Autocar road test

Post by 535dboy » Fri Nov 15, 2013 9:54 pm

[quote="snipez999"]
Then again BMWs are hardly budget places to sit......
[/quote]

True

Apparently heated seats are still an option!!!
Currently :
2012 Audi RS4 (B8)
2012 Porsche Boxster S (981)
2008 Lotus Exige S (a bit modified!)
2015 Nissan Leaf twin turbo with Nitros

Previously :
2008 BMW X5 3.0sd MSport
2005 BMW 535d MSport

Post Reply