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Tyre advice needed urgently

Post by cooa99 » Sat Mar 07, 2020 5:23 pm

Sorry to bring another tyre question up. but I am now in an urgent need of new tyres all round. Last weekend I saw the tread showing through on one of the tyres!. My indecisions has left me with an unsafe car.

On My E53 3.0D I have 255/50 R19 for the fronts and 285/45 R19 for the rears. I have (and always used for the last 12yrs) the * Rated Michelin Diamaris which are now no longer in production.

It also appears that there are no longer any more * Rated tyres or branding in production so the advice to use BMW * rated tyre no longer holds.

After a few online tyre sites searches, the brand and models below are coming up as options :-

Avon Zx7
Michelin Latitude Sports 3
Toyo Proces Sport
Michelin Pilot Sport 4
Kumho Crugen HP91
Nankang Surpax SP-5

My initial thoughts are on the 1st three above. Please what are you guys using at the moment?. Your thoughts and advice highly appreciated

Thanks

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Post by X5Sport » Sat Mar 07, 2020 5:35 pm

Plenty of run flat types at these sizes, but that may not be what you want. I used them with no issue on my E53. It made the ride just a tad harder but that didn’t bother me.

I suppose the shift to RFT/SSR types has finally caught up with other types. BMW advised me to start looking at MOE marked tyres (Mercedes Original - Extended) as BMW are using these as well. I can’t get winter tyres for the staggered X6 set as the size has gone end of life for the rear pair across all usable brands.

I have also used MO marked as well.
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Post by cooa99 » Sat Mar 07, 2020 8:12 pm

Yes I did see a few run flats as well. I have always found the 3.0D sport suspension not particularly a comfortable ride so using run flats will probably just make the ride worse .... which could easily be in my head. Also I am averaging 600 motorway miles weekly so not sure how much drop in mpg that's going to be on the current 30mgp.

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Post by X5Sport » Sat Mar 07, 2020 9:17 pm

Switching to RFT made no difference on the E53 in the year after I fitted the tyres before it was sold.

Mine only had rear-air (not by choice but because I had a tow-bar) but no idea if that would make a difference but I thought I’d mention it.

I think I used Bridgestone Duellers - they came off the X6 as the I used the wheels for the fitting of the winter set and they were delivery mileage only. Having had both Dunlop and Bridgestone on the X6, the latter lasted a lot longer - about 22,000 miles I think. I’m now using Conti’s.
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Post by sid10 » Sun Mar 08, 2020 10:52 am

Hi to be able to run the runflats you will need wheels with H2+ on so later wheels for the E53 that fit are BMW X6 E71 but require spigot rings for the front wheels as the X6 run a different set up front to back 74.1 pcd front 72.6 pcd rear , also if it is a sport version you need the M sport 19" alloys , as the offset is different and as I found out the Se wheels catch the rear inner arch so scrub the tyres .
If you find some give me a message & I will tell you if they will fit . Also none staggered wheels would fit et48 front and rear 9 x 19 " .
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Post by sid10 » Sun Mar 08, 2020 10:54 am

Forgot to say that the H2+ wheels have an inner bead that the runflats lock into so that they dont come off when punctured or cracked the standard wheels dont have that .

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Post by cooa99 » Sun Mar 08, 2020 11:42 am

Thanks for the run flat info.

This means that the runflats are not an option then if i have to start trying to sort new wheels as well.

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Post by sid10 » Sun Mar 08, 2020 11:55 am

Yes that's the problem, although they are easily sourced I have a set for sale! You are best knowing than spending the money on tyres having an accident then finding out.
I run Vredestein wintrac winter tyres on mine no problem, unfortunately the manufacturers have the tyres at different specs so even the same size can be 70 mm difference in height.

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Post by cooa99 » Mon Mar 09, 2020 5:57 pm

Costco are doing some deals on the michellins at the moment , so will pop in to night to see what they have on offer.

I am leaning towrds the Avon and the michelins. only issue is that their speed rating are not the same as my diamaris

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Post by X5Sport » Mon Mar 09, 2020 6:38 pm

You need V or W because the car’s top speed is above H (130mph) even if you will never use it. V is 149 and W is 168. Z if you can find it it 150+.

The weight rating is the one you can’t go below whatever is on the pressure plate on the B-pillar. You can safely go higher though - say 111 instead of 107.

I couldn’t find the 285/45 tyres 19” in Costco’s lists when I checked :(

The X6 is fitted with Y rated (186mph) tyres and that’s more than 30mph above what the 40d is capable of! I suppose there is logic for it, but all I can think of is torque delivery might shred the tread?
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Post by cooa99 » Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:37 pm

I went into costco last night they have Michelin latitude sports 3 for both front and rear 111W

All 4 woking out at £560 which include s £100 discount.

I have also checked the website an the 285/45 R19's are there. Search by size rather than by registration and it should show up

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Post by cooa99 » Mon Mar 16, 2020 5:15 pm

unfortunately , costco don't have the correct tyres for the front so I had to buy all 4 elsewhere for £660.

It is slightly quieter than the Diamaris. My main issue is a slight road noise/ feeling of vibration when accelerating from rest, This happens between 10-15mph and quickly disappears

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Re: Tyre advice needed urgently

Post by X5-D-Sport » Thu May 07, 2020 4:57 pm

I did away with staggered wheels a long time ago.
Mine has matching rear wheels all round.
30mm spacers on rear, 10mm spacers at front,
& I pulled the strut tops in 20mm each side also, to level the wheel camber to zero.
This has stopped the front outer edge scrub, & the vehicle drives as if its on rails now.
Tyres are 285 x 45 x 19 all round.

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