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December 01, 2017, 03:57:38 PM
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Re: E70 quality enhancement front driveshaft ‘recall’ 2012-2014
« Reply #30 on: December 01, 2017, 03:57:38 PM »
My car has been examined now, no movement, no rust so not replaced.
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December 01, 2017, 04:08:36 PM
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« Reply #31 on: December 01, 2017, 04:08:36 PM »
My car has been examined now, no movement, no rust so not replaced.

Shame on them!!🙉🙉

December 01, 2017, 06:32:20 PM
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« Reply #32 on: December 01, 2017, 06:32:20 PM »
Thanks for the update Neo and good luck with the fitting of the new prop shaft, be interested to see what sort if nick the old one is in and how easy/hard the replacement is to fit.

December 01, 2017, 09:44:33 PM
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« Reply #33 on: December 01, 2017, 09:44:33 PM »
Job done 😎😎

Started 1900 finished 2020 so all together 1h20m on my own.
It is indeed one person job and easier that I was expecting really.
For anyone interested below are some pics and videos.

Old shaft didnt look really bad at first look, however there was a lot of rust and some grease traces around U JOINTS which indicates to me that they are going as lack of grease causes u joint to break.

If you look close at the video of old shaft. The u joint on the bolted end is barely moving. There is only few mm of movement and than stuck. I really struggled to move it.
So i guess this u joint is gone and just waiting to break.

To remind everyone this shaft been checked within QE Recall by bmw in June 2014 and according to dealer it was all fine and within spec.

What you need is

New shaft - mine is from Des Shelley Shafts in Wolverhampton



4 x new one time use Bolts with Ribs  - part number 26117529387



All the tools you need are on the pic below.
Torque wrench
8mm and 10mm socket to remove the Shields under the car
E12 Torx socket head
Socket extension



If you like me will be doing it at home in a garage than all you need to get easy access is to lift the front of a car a bit, and support both ends with stands for safety.
I used 1.5t jack with no issues.



Here is a video of my original shaft before removal and after.
As you can see there is quite a big play in spline bit that goes into the transfer box/u joint.

Second part of video shows old prop shaft out.
You can see all the rust and dried grease traces all over it.
You can see me trying to move it ( bolted part) but it's stuck,so either no greese or rusted already.

https://youtu.be/26B3bhUAeM0

December 01, 2017, 10:27:43 PM
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« Reply #34 on: December 01, 2017, 10:27:43 PM »
Great write up 😀. This propshaft problem has steered me away from buying an E70.
What was the cost of the driveshaft you purchased as a matter of interest ?
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December 01, 2017, 10:43:15 PM
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« Reply #35 on: December 01, 2017, 10:43:15 PM »
Great write up 😀. This propshaft problem has steered me away from buying an E70.
What was the cost of the driveshaft you purchased as a matter of interest ?

£245 delivered.

December 02, 2017, 09:08:05 AM
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Re: E70 quality enhancement front driveshaft ‘recall’ 2012-2014
« Reply #36 on: December 02, 2017, 09:08:05 AM »
Great write up 😀. This propshaft problem has steered me away from buying an E70.
What was the cost of the driveshaft you purchased as a matter of interest ?

Not all E70s are affected-it doesn’t define the whole lifespan of the E70 series.  Plus at £245 to replace if really desired, itcwon’t break the bank. Thing to do is check VIN to see if the car you are interested in is affected potentially and change it if you want or if not yet done. Nonevof the model series are without their problems.
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December 02, 2017, 09:13:46 AM
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Re: E70 quality enhancement front driveshaft ‘recall’ 2012-2014
« Reply #37 on: December 02, 2017, 09:13:46 AM »
Great write up 😀. This propshaft problem has steered me away from buying an E70.
What was the cost of the driveshaft you purchased as a matter of interest ?

Not all E70s are affected-it doesn’t define the whole lifespan of the E70 series.  Plus at £245 to replace if really desired, itcwon’t break the bank. Thing to do is check VIN to see if the car you are interested in is affected potentially and change it if you want or if not yet done. Nonevof the model series are without their problems.

True i agree

However knowing that bmw just extended qe recall to 2011-2014 models, it looks like all the e70 lci can be potentially affected.
However the cost to replace it on your own is nothing, and some were lucky and had it replaced by the dealer.

X5 40d is amazing and it would never push me off buying it.

December 02, 2017, 09:36:50 AM
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Re: E70 quality enhancement front driveshaft ‘recall’ 2012-2014
« Reply #38 on: December 02, 2017, 09:36:50 AM »
Great write up Neo, thank you. I think I'm going to check which shaft I have, old or new before possible following in your footsteps.

Quick couple of Q's if you don't mind as you are now our resident prop shaft expert  ;)
1) what were the torque specs of the bolts?
2) Did you need to grease the shaft and if so what did you use?


December 02, 2017, 09:44:53 AM
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Re: E70 quality enhancement front driveshaft ‘recall’ 2012-2014
« Reply #39 on: December 02, 2017, 09:44:53 AM »
Great write up Neo, thank you. I think I'm going to check which shaft I have, old or new before possible following in your footsteps.

Quick couple of Q's if you don't mind as you are now our resident prop shaft expert  ;)
1) what were the torque specs of the bolts?
2) Did you need to grease the shaft and if so what did you use?

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Thanks Dave

1. According to website spec I found for all bmw bolts, m8 silver ZNS is 28Nm torque
When unbolting it was indeed quite low tourqed as I was expecting a bit higher figures on a prop shaft.
To be on a safer side I used 35Nm of torque and felt just perfect.
The bolts must be replaced as they are ribbed bolts that are self tightening to prevent getting loose over time.
So a bit more torque wont affect the bolt but instead just squeeze the ribbsbit more.



2. Shaft came in all ready to fit. It came with all u joints greased and lubricated. As you can see on my pics there was also a new rubber cover for the splined bit fitted already.
So all it takes is to unbolt the old one and fit new one with new bolts.
All perfect fitment, no issues at all, same size, same fitment.

December 02, 2017, 10:30:33 AM
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Re: E70 quality enhancement front driveshaft ‘recall’ 2012-2014
« Reply #40 on: December 02, 2017, 10:30:33 AM »
That is simply an amazing post re your replacement of drive shaft.
Prior to ownership, I had doubts, so opted for the AUC purchase, however since ownership I’ve been sceptical of the shaft issue,
Your post has given me the resolve and piece of mind, Many thanks......
I’ll be in touch with with Des Shelly shafts, order a replacement and replacement bolts from Cotswold...

Many thanks for posting, I’ll follow your lead p!  :)

December 02, 2017, 10:38:38 AM
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« Reply #41 on: December 02, 2017, 10:38:38 AM »
That is simply an amazing post re your replacement of drive shaft.
Prior to ownership, I had doubts, so opted for the AUC purchase, however since ownership I’ve been sceptical of the shaft issue,
Your post has given me the resolve and piece of mind, Many thanks......
I’ll be in touch with with Des Shelly shafts, order a replacement and replacement bolts from Cotswold...

Many thanks for posting, I’ll follow your lead p!  :)

Thanks mate

If there is anyone near Bristol and need help doing it, I don't mind helping out in my garage.
Got all the tools and space to do it.
All you need is a shaft and some bolts.

I'm glad I could help out.


December 02, 2017, 10:54:37 AM
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« Reply #42 on: December 02, 2017, 10:54:37 AM »
Your a whizz with a spanner mate just PM me next time your near Durham  :P
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December 02, 2017, 11:00:35 AM
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« Reply #43 on: December 02, 2017, 11:00:35 AM »
Your a whizz with a spanner mate just PM me next time your near Durham  :P

Will do mate 😳😳

December 02, 2017, 11:06:23 AM
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« Reply #44 on: December 02, 2017, 11:06:23 AM »
Thanks for the extra info, greatly appreciated.